tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post4496399729839592146..comments2023-06-19T04:35:06.263-07:00Comments on Skeptic's Play: On being betweenmillerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05990852054891771988noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-52233453933917949302010-11-24T05:32:57.118-08:002010-11-24T05:32:57.118-08:00It is of course clear that there are indeed males ...It is of course clear that there are indeed males and females. That's not anywhere close to your original assertion. You asserted that the <i>purpose</i> of having males and females is clear. Are you a liar or just stupid?<br /><br /><i>Sometimes, human beings ignore the obvious intentionally to pursue self-centered gratification.</i><br /><br />Are you saying that I have ignored the fact that there are males and females? If that's not what you're saying, then this statement is utterly irrelevant and inappropriate. Are you insulting me or are you prone to psychotic fugues?Larry Hamelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08788697573946266404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-64543560254827627412010-11-24T05:05:24.544-08:002010-11-24T05:05:24.544-08:00“It is clear” in the sense that anyone can observe...“It is clear” in the sense that anyone can observe the obvious: there are males and females in the world. Otherwise, why wouldn’t only males occupy the earth? Or why not only females? Sometimes, human beings ignore the obvious intentionally to pursue self-centered gratification. And, confusion ensues.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14435279632050039266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-73247313505549152162010-11-24T02:46:32.143-08:002010-11-24T02:46:32.143-08:00One thing which is clear...
I do not think that w...<i>One thing which is <b>clear</b>...</i><br /><br />I do not think that word means what you think it means.Larry Hamelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08788697573946266404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-85452112182967639152010-11-23T22:21:58.911-08:002010-11-23T22:21:58.911-08:00Charles,
That may be true. ... Or, none of it is...Charles,<br /><br />That may be true. ... Or, none of it is true, and you're full of shit. If only you had actually advanced an argument, then we could decide between these two possibilities.millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05990852054891771988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-82513601549091008632010-11-23T20:35:43.664-08:002010-11-23T20:35:43.664-08:00Count me a skeptic to what you described. There s...Count me a skeptic to what you described. There seems to be a lot of confusion: sexual vs. romantic attraction, same-sex or opposite-sex attraction, etc. That may be why it is difficult to talk about. One thing which is clear is that humanity is created with males and females for the purpose of companionship, marriage, and procreation. A violation of this creative intent is the cause of confusion and pain.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14435279632050039266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-81971889171202456702010-11-17T14:26:40.982-08:002010-11-17T14:26:40.982-08:00You're asking for me to share more. I'm n...You're asking for me to share more. I'm not obligated to share <i>any</i> of this.<br /><br />Honestly, that is kind of a disingenuous question to ask. It's like when a Christian first meets an atheist, and the first question they can think to ask is, "Did you have a poor relationship with your father?" Even though it's a completely valid question to ask in some contexts (many atheists don't get along with their religious families), this particular context does not inspire confidence. It's playing into a myth that atheists just have bad relationships with their fathers. The Christian needs to build more trust before they can ask such a question.<br /><br />You want to know what asexuals think of friendship vs romance, you do the research. Research broadly, since opinions and attitudes vary widely on this subject.millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05990852054891771988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-42877723028806633432010-11-17T13:22:04.522-08:002010-11-17T13:22:04.522-08:00You have dissected your feelings in so many ways, ...You have dissected your feelings in so many ways, but most of them could be covered by what most people would simply call friendship. You mention friends; what is friendship to you? Can you describe what friendship means to you? Do you have friends of both sexes?DeralterChemikerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05418046984984036644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-3916688954866663302010-11-15T21:45:24.492-08:002010-11-15T21:45:24.492-08:00SlightlyMetaphysical,
I don't use "demis...SlightlyMetaphysical,<br /><br />I don't use "demisexual" with outside audiences for the same reason I don't use "gray-A". I find that people often say, "Whoa, there's a word for that? Is that actually a thing?" And I have to say, yes, but I don't have time to get into it.<br /><br />Larry,<br /><br />I've also had trouble imagining people with such different experiences from my own. I spent years projecting myself onto other people, thinking they must not really be as much into sex as it seems.millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05990852054891771988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-64547944866593846832010-11-15T19:55:35.609-08:002010-11-15T19:55:35.609-08:00I make no pretenses to "normality"; I am...I make no pretenses to "normality"; I am who I am, no more, no less. But I have such different reactions.<br /><br />I see a certain type of woman (always women), and my lizard brain literally explodes with lust. (My monkey brain, happily, is usually able to (introspectively) observe my lizard brain going nuts without much affecting my overt behavior.) It's an utterly unmistakable feeling.<br /><br />Sometimes I'll see a certain type of woman; on the visual stimulus alone, my lizard brain says, "Meh." Then she'll open her mouth, say some thing smart, or just complimentary, and the lizard brain is in hyperdrive again. Again, just women: the smartest guy in the world can say the smartest thing in the world, and my lizard brain yawns.<br /><br />It's very difficult for me to imagine someone <i>not</i> having his or her lizard brain flood the monkey brain with visceral unreasoning lust pretty much every half hour as long as I'm awake and in public. <br /><br />Happily, my monkey brain is able to grasp intellectually, at least to some extent, that which I can't grasp viscerally. Or at least I do my best to make allowances for my limited and entirely parochial perspective.Larry Hamelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08788697573946266404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-51959182823195314732010-11-15T15:59:32.279-08:002010-11-15T15:59:32.279-08:00Wow. There's such a lot I want to say in respo...Wow. There's such a lot I want to say in response to this. Sorry if I ramble on a bit, but I have some pretty strong reactions to what you've said.<br /><br />For a start, when I've been worrying about how stupidly complicated my orientation is to explain, seeing someone else explaining theirs in this length is reassuring.<br /><br />Ok, so the "Give us the 101/your experiences!" thing. So annoying! It's the idea that they're necessarily the same thing that makes it so difficult to come out as a non-typical asexual. You're spinning two stories at once, and the stories are contradictory but one of them relies on the other, and the people you're explaining to might not even realise that there are two stories.<br />And that's not counting, as you mention, that you want people to know about you, but you don't want to confuse them by going past 101 too fast.<br /><br />And I don't like using grey-a outside of the asexual community either. That's why I've widened demisexual (in my head) to mean what grey-a used to, because it feels stupid to out yourself as grey-a.<br /><br />I've been thinking recently about how asexuals define orientation compared to the rest of the world. I think the main difference is actually that we DO. Our definition tends to be about attraction, and about compartmentalising the different attractions.<br /><br />"See, it’s not the romantic/aromantic distinction that matters. What really matters is the distinction between being capable and incapable of functioning in a relationship."<br /><br />Wow. You've developed some kind of device to pluck thoughts out of people's brains before they've had them and translate them into words. Are you going to use this power for good or evil?<br /><br />And finally (finally!) I find it quite a weird experience to think that other people with essentially exactly the same sexuality as me are identifying completely differently.<br /><br />Great post.SlightlyMetaphysicalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17891271827553008521noreply@blogger.com