tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post5424716513875916395..comments2023-06-19T04:35:06.263-07:00Comments on Skeptic's Play: Liberal bias in scientistsmillerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05990852054891771988noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-61334951931408289932011-12-27T13:33:19.294-08:002011-12-27T13:33:19.294-08:00Science gave us pesticides. Were they libs?
All Li...Science gave us pesticides. Were they libs?<br />All Liberal climate change research is into causes, not effects and all denier is into causes not just effects. And note all denier science is publicly funded and believer is public.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-58134836291780915352010-12-26T16:31:59.954-08:002010-12-26T16:31:59.954-08:00It's funny: When we're talking about ordin...It's funny: When we're talking about ordinary private economics, individuals acting in their own economic self-interest is the highest good. When some citizens realize their economic self-interest lies in the government, suddenly it's the greatest threat to civilization since, well, communism.Larry Hamelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08788697573946266404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-31103247338437852642010-10-09T05:47:39.198-07:002010-10-09T05:47:39.198-07:00Republicans are typically stupid and rich, while s...Republicans are typically stupid and rich, while scientists tend to be intelligent and principled.<br /><br />If we could give more money to scientists who slave away every day at uncovering the true nature of reality, perhaps we would live in a better world...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-61515028376736638922010-02-17T09:08:26.235-08:002010-02-17T09:08:26.235-08:00Paragraph 11 ("another way to read it") ...Paragraph 11 ("another way to read it") was the view taken by <a href="http://jeffreyellis.org/blog/?p=1208" rel="nofollow">The Thinker</a>. I disagree with it.millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05990852054891771988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-62637480864924591382010-02-17T01:17:31.285-08:002010-02-17T01:17:31.285-08:00I do believe that there is a causal link between s...I do believe that there is a causal link between studying science and liberal thinking, tho this is mostly from my personal experience in talking with colleagues at work and at conferences who tell me the methodology they developed while working (in science) is in general the same methodology they now apply to thinking about public policy.<br /><br />if you intended to argue that any bias is filtered out by proper method. then i agree with you. I personally didn't feel like thats what you were communicating, but I suppose I could be misreading you.<br /><br />paragraph 10 lays out this argument nicely but paragraph 11 left me feeling like you think its a wash and thus didn't come to a conclusion.Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03262144475954209550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-71910027591755879662010-02-16T17:36:34.076-08:002010-02-16T17:36:34.076-08:00That is one way to look at it, but I don't thi...That is one way to look at it, but I don't think it's that compelling. It's based on one causative link (studying science leads to liberal policies) and one questionable claim (that liberals aren't influenced by their leaders).<br /><br />I think it's more compelling to argue, as I did, that whether being liberal creates bias or not, any bias is filtered out by proper method.millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05990852054891771988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-71056769095956750202010-02-16T16:21:24.559-08:002010-02-16T16:21:24.559-08:00you seem to imply, in those last paragraphs, that ...you seem to imply, in those last paragraphs, that being liberal <i>creates</i> bias. perhapse scientists are liberal because they believe that the best policy choices are the ones that are classified as liberal. No one chooses to be liberal and then makes their decisions according to what liberal leaders say, we make decisions and <i>then</i> classify those decisions as liberal or conservative.Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03262144475954209550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-8100390164316470072009-10-03T22:18:19.267-07:002009-10-03T22:18:19.267-07:00Woohoo! Let's hear it for us liberal scientist...Woohoo! Let's hear it for us liberal scientists!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9124539381685751273.post-84919844237007780502009-09-05T09:34:38.454-07:002009-09-05T09:34:38.454-07:00Nice essay. I'll have to point out that the l...Nice essay. I'll have to point out that the language you use to discuss the first set of charts is imprecise. I'm assuming this is a survey of American scientists. American Democrats are hardly "liberal". So, we don't have a measure on the conservative/liberal split - we have a measure on the Republican/Democrat split. <br /><br />And, yeah - one reason may well have to do with the anti-scientific elements in the GOP tent. <br /><br />It would be interesting to compare scientists' party affiliations in nations whose "conservative" wing lacked that element.smijerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00565212411446092552noreply@blogger.com